Wanting to do better when it comes to fighting racism is great - but even with good intentions, asking the Black people in your life to tell you how isn't the way to start. Elena and Harv talk to author and activist Frederick Joseph about what makes this question frustrating, where to find resources, and how to fill someone's metaphorical cup. Professor Andrea Davis explains emotional labour, our responsibility to seek to know, and how "doing better" isn't a quick and easy process.

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