How can you have meaningful conversations in increasingly polarized times, whether it's against the backdrop of American politics or about what's happening in Ukraine, the Middle East, or other hot spots around the world? According to journalist and author Mónica Guzmán, it's by asking yourself during a conversation: "What am I missing?"As the host of the podcast "A Braver Way" and the senior fellow for public practice at Braver Angels, a cross-partisan organization that aims to unite people across the political divide, Guzmán has long been fascinated by great conversations that seek to understand other people's points of view rather than try to convince them that one is right. Her book I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times provides a guide for finding common ground in an era of conflict and fictionalization. Open to Debate moderator John Donvan talks with Guzmán about her work at Braver Angels, the quest to stay hopeful in times of increasing tension, and how using curiosity to navigate today's polarized landscape is easier than you think. Audio Only.

Originally released by Open to Debate, 2023. Streaming video file encoded with permission for digital streaming by Infobase on June 06, 2024.